• Polar@lemmy.ca
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        Wish it was. The Linux community shitting on Windows is worse.

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          why is that? it’s not punching down when its a billion dollar company

          edit: no coherent thoughts then? just mindless downvoting? well you’ve convinced me with that persuasive logic.

          it’s genuinely concerning to see the microsoft stockholm syndrome in the wild, but on lemmy it’s honestly baffling.

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            I’ll bite, I down voted you because I think you’re missing the point of what the above commenters are talking about. It’s not about whether it’s punching down/up to criticize Microsoft.

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              why is that? it’s not punching down when its a billion dollar company

              I’ll bite, I down voted you because I think you’re missing the point of what the above commenters are talking about. It’s not about whether it’s punching down/up to criticize Microsoft.

              It literally started with a question.

              why is that?

              As yet noone has even answered that question.

              Why is it worse? You’ve gone to the trouble to downvote, and reply, yet still haven’t answered the question.

              Tbh most partisan camp debates in technology are pretty tiresome: ios vs android, playstation vs xbox. They all have pros and cons.

              (Even linux and windows both have their pros and cons.)

              That said, there’s a huge difference between comparing two commercial products both from competing companies vs a powerful open source tool, with almost limitless potential. Virtually ANY complaint you have about linux CAN be fixed by the public, even YOU if you put in the appropriate effort/resources.

              The fact that you can freely boot into modern hardware with something offering that kind of power & freedom openly to the public is frankly incredible.

              So tbh it’s pretty difficult to see why it is worse.

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                You’ve answered the question yourself. It’s just tiresome. It’s so exhausting to see time and time again. It’s not like it makes it not tiresome just because it’s punching up to criticize Microsoft. It’s a subjective thing, clearly some people don’t think it is tiresome so they continue to gripe about it.

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                  the problem is, that it keeps getting worse and more (in/per)vasive. when new items are added to the list, do you really expect its unreasonable that people are going to discuss the new & continued revelations?

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                    I don’t think this conversation has ever been about it being unreasonable for people to talk about, but no, I don’t find it unreasonable. Like I said, I just find the framing of it being about a power differential to be irrelevant for folks finding the topic to be annoying to read about.

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                Tbh I’m a bit disappointed, the influx of new users is great. It’s great people are leaving closedsource places and enjoying free and opensource places like lemmy.

                Its good seeing new faces and making new friends.

                And I get they’ll inevitably bring some of that default “closed is better than open” mindset with them.

                Its just disappointing when given the opportunity to learn a bit more about the world of open freedom, instead of considering maybe there might be something new they could learn and potentially enjoy.

                Instead they try to drown us out with mindless and (mostly) unsubstantiated downvotes.

                And it often turns out to be people who inevitably declare they don’t know how to use linux or couldn’t get it working properly.

                So WHY is it when someone admits they don’t really understand the topic, do they think they’re the right person to vote on the legitimacy of the claims being made???

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          some is warranted, some is not, both sides have a copium dealer, mine is down the street from me.