the discussion was actually about it being “more annoying”. (for which we’re still yet to have an answer to btw)

unable to defend that, next it was about it being “just tiresome” (not “more annoying”).

now its “the framing of it being about a power differential to be irrelevant” (not “just tiresome”, or “more annoying” either?).

so the complaint changes, but the one constant is that you just happen to still be right each time (yet can’t provide a consistent reason why).

in other words, as stated from the outset, no coherent or consistent arguments. just mindless downvoting.

honestly, it’s disappointing.

just venting. lol

the problem is, that it keeps getting worse and more (in/per)vasive. when new items are added to the list, do you really expect its unreasonable that people are going to discuss the new & continued revelations?

Tbh I’m a bit disappointed, the influx of new users is great. It’s great people are leaving closedsource places and enjoying free and opensource places like lemmy.

Its good seeing new faces and making new friends.

And I get they’ll inevitably bring some of that default “closed is better than open” mindset with them.

Its just disappointing when given the opportunity to learn a bit more about the world of open freedom, instead of considering maybe there might be something new they could learn and potentially enjoy.

Instead they try to drown us out with mindless and (mostly) unsubstantiated downvotes.

And it often turns out to be people who inevitably declare they don’t know how to use linux or couldn’t get it working properly.

So WHY is it when someone admits they don’t really understand the topic, do they think they’re the right person to vote on the legitimacy of the claims being made???

why is that? it’s not punching down when its a billion dollar company

I’ll bite, I down voted you because I think you’re missing the point of what the above commenters are talking about. It’s not about whether it’s punching down/up to criticize Microsoft.

It literally started with a question.

why is that?

As yet noone has even answered that question.

Why is it worse? You’ve gone to the trouble to downvote, and reply, yet still haven’t answered the question.

Tbh most partisan camp debates in technology are pretty tiresome: ios vs android, playstation vs xbox. They all have pros and cons.

(Even linux and windows both have their pros and cons.)

That said, there’s a huge difference between comparing two commercial products both from competing companies vs a powerful open source tool, with almost limitless potential. Virtually ANY complaint you have about linux CAN be fixed by the public, even YOU if you put in the appropriate effort/resources.

The fact that you can freely boot into modern hardware with something offering that kind of power & freedom openly to the public is frankly incredible.

So tbh it’s pretty difficult to see why it is worse.

agree 100%

have also noticed an uptick in “new is always better, those old ways are so dumb and they were so stupid” mindset.

not sure if this is directly part of the reason, but the upshot is you don’t need to learn the fundamentals. you’re protected from learning how things actually work, because there’s always a bloaty house of cards chain of libraries to keep you separated from reality.

and of course its always easier to write off all of the fundamentals as ‘pointless old garbage’, than actually challenge yourself with any of it.

then you can enjoy a false sense of superiority, not because you overcame anything, but by never even trying.

“undefeated”, not because you ever won, but because you never fought.

and its not the “kids these day’s” fault. training institutions are corrupted by greedy suits, its all about the $$$s and pumping unprepared grads out at a blinding rate is more profitable (short term).

why is that? it’s not punching down when its a billion dollar company

edit: no coherent thoughts then? just mindless downvoting? well you’ve convinced me with that persuasive logic.

it’s genuinely concerning to see the microsoft stockholm syndrome in the wild, but on lemmy it’s honestly baffling.