You’re not piloting a bone mech, you are it.
It feels like you’re behind your face looking out into the world but once you pay close attention and look for what’s looking you’ll discover there’s nothing there. There’s no “you” in a sense that there’s someone behind the wheel. There’s just consciousness. It feels like something to be. A subjective experience.
WHERE IS THE PAINLESS OFF BUTTON!?
Pain is mandatory, suffering is optional.
That’s called a massive dose of opiates. You are highly unlikely to reboot after complete shutdown, so it’s generally not recommended.
Hey Sam Harris is that you?
No, I’m not on social media anymore.
Is he getting the credit for ancient scripture these days? Interesting.
‘Look for what’s looking’ is something he often says in his daily meditation sessions on the Waking Up app, which famously frustrates people. ‘There’s just consciousness and its content’ is also a direct quote from him.
Neither of these he probably came up with by himself, but that’s his way (and in my view, the best way) of saying it.
Oh, sure, I’m familiar with the logic; I’ve meditated for years. And this is one of Buddhism’s core revelations:
There’s no “you” in a sense that there’s someone behind the wheel.
It’s very true of course, regardless of who is saying it - Sam, the Buddha, or anyone else.
well if you wanna go deeper then we are just processes running on a bio computer that’s our brain and nervous system.
or if you wanna go deeper we are just a bunch of DNA that wants to replicate and spread.
I like to spread my DNA without replicating it.
Fuck yeah spread it
In other words I’m a mistake of evolution.
(Jk all the other shit humanity has done to destroy the planet and allow 100 people to have half of the world’s wealth are the mistakes.)
I like to swallow others dna
we are just processes running on a bio computer that’s our brain and nervous system.
We’re processes running on two bio computers, one of which is actively suppressed by the other. That’s our brain and nervous system.
Go deep.
We’re just a clump of stuff that is constantly fighting against the entropy of the universe, man.
We’re just pure energy vibrating at different frequencies
We’re the stuff of nothingness that popped into existence a long time ago
Not me man
And if you go really deep matter itself moves to form organized organic compounds that reproduce and grow in complexity under stable physical processes.
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Men are just DNA mosquitoes, only instead of taking blood we deposit DNA.
I mean, we still suck. but that’s more of a classification or generalization for another time.
pretty shitty meat armor, might i add.
It’s pretty amazing that it can self mend
I’ve managed to outlive many computer systems because they can’t self mend.
yet
No no, that’s not how that works.
yet
It breaks a lot
And leaks a lot
Also has a few exhaust problems
yeah, the methane output on some models is just insane.
How Not To Die by Michael Greger
see also: anti-flammatory diet
(drink 0.75 gal to 1 gallon of h2o daily)
(eliminate flour) ((pizza, bread, bagels, pasta, crackers, etc))
Start there
And walk vs driving
And do yoga
and eat a head of spinach, daily. …
You’ll be amazed. (at how your body TRANSFORMz0rz :-o GO POWER RANGERZZZZZZS )
(leave your phone at a friend’s house build a better env )
72 hours give it 3 days of that
You will be amazed
at how your OWN body
can trans form its nervous sensory stimuli & feelings
(start drinking water the moment u wake up keep it in the bathroom next to toilet or en route
(where it wont spill if you’re half-asleep and bump it )
Why is this formatted like a bad Facebook post from a middle aged mom that recently bought into a pyramid scheme disguised as a fitness program?
Edit:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Greger
Ok, so not a pyramid scheme. But the book is critizised for overstating the benefits of veganism and the dangers of other foods. Take with a HUGE grain of salt if you want to dive into this.
I just want to know how to drink a gallon of water daily without living in my own bathroom?
The salt is good for electrolytes
I think I’d rather just go with death if that’s my only two options.
they’re really not your only two options that was just a menu of a sampling of my ideal sorta
gross over generalization … a bit like the op meme :-)
Walk vs driving
MBIC my commute is 45 mins one-way
45min driving? yikes
How many miles or KM ?
So if gut bacteria have a serious influence on the brain’s behavior, does that make us cyborgs driving a mech?
Source https://jneuroinflammation.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12974-020-1705-z
It makes us an ECOSYSTEM!
We’re not really “human” we”re more like… … a planet.
or a forest, at least (soil, mycelium, roots, microbes, ferns, shrubs, squirrels, trees, clouds, rain, rivers…)
(imho)
My vessel is an ecosystem… you could really get use to saying that lol
This opinion is beautiful and I will now choose to follow it. It almost makes one feel a kinship with the eyelash mites.
Then why I die from liver failure.
Every death is just brain damage. Now that can be either caused by physical trauma or (more commonly) oxygen stops reaching the brain for one reason or another. Oh and I guess sometimes a virus or a tumor invades the brain and eats up most of it.
Oh and I guess sometimes a virus or a tumor invades the brain and eats up most of it.
Rabies being the most common I think
Steve?
I’m 14 and this blew my mind
I call my blood balloon stick mech The Vessel.
The Vessel is fucked up, but the spirit piloting the mess is doing great.
It’s that tominoesque thing, saying it’s gundam when it’s actually just giant robot anime.
Our being is just a brain and a nervous system. Our body is just a space suit
Goes more abstract than that. Our being is the unique interconnected pattern we all have of billions of firing neurons. Erase the pattern and you erase the human and make them a blank slate infant again. We are just software.
TLDR; We are the entire universe pretending to be an individual.
I like where you are going with it, but I think it’s more crazy than that. It seems that the idea of self/individual is an illusion. We think of our self’s as just our brain. But we are much more than that. There is an inter connectivity between our brain and the rest of our body that science is now just starting to understand. On top of that, we have everything else outside our body that we need to survive/can influence our health and train of thought.
As an example, think of all the things you can/can’t control with your body. Heart rate, digestion, fighting off infections, what mood you are in, etc.
This is where breath work in yoga/meditating comes in. It’s the most obvious example of a physiological process that is involuntary but also voluntary. Focus on that, and you can start blur the boundary between self and other.
So the question is, “where do “I” end, and where does “everything else” begin”?
Turns out that there is no solid or non-subjective answer to that.
It’s almost as if our ideas of “self” are an illusion in order to birth the evolutionary advantageous behavior of being social.
Anyway…I’m starting to feel the edible… have a great Labor Day!
Previously formed neural pathways, epigenetics, nascent research into gut microbiota and cognition. It’s even more abstract and amazing than just software.
Erase the neuronic pattern and the frame work that led to a big part of what that person was still remains.
You lose memory, but there’s a very real argument to be made that we’re a trickier stack of firmware, software, and hardware acceleration to keep your analogy.
The newly minted infant homunculi in this hypothetical total loss of the “pattern” would (given their environment supports enough resources) find themselves becoming something significantly alike what was there before.
It happens all the time with smaller and not as thorough distractions to that pattern after all.
That’s my take anyhow.
This is only true if you subscribe to a dualist view of humanity, that is that the body is a separate thing from the mind. But there is also a monist way to look at it, that the body and the mind are one.
The totality of a human being can’t be separated into body and mind in a practical way. What about the senses which are both a bodily and a psychological function? What about emotions that are definitely felt both in the psyche and in the body? When I am tried I can’t think well, when I am depressed it’s harder to perform a bench press than when I am not depressed.
We are not just the brain. That’s a reductive way to look at human being. The ancient philosophers knew this, after all, mens sana in corpore sano.
both in the psyche and in the body? When I am tried I can’t think well, when I am depressed it’s harder to perform a bench press than when I am not depressed.
Note however that those are both examples related to brain chemistry. OP’s meme seems to be pointing more toward the fact that it’s easy to see why people who lose a finger or who can’t move their bodies at all are still people, whereas that claim is more difficult to lay on bodies of people with no brain activity. Of course brain and body are linked but I’d argue that the “brain pilot model” is more accurate than “body and brain are inseparable in any practical sense” because you can lose pieces of the body while still retaining core elements of self, but that doesn’t work so well when losing parts of the brain.
Counterpoint
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Our present domination global culture is biased to place a higher value on brain vs. body function— see eg someone “declared ‘brain-dead’”… … or in a coma.
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People w damaged or missing body parts will say that they no longer feel like themselves
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I dunno. Organic space suit implies that the nervous system could survive independently of it. But it can’t.
You need to get blood to the brain, so you need a heart. That blood needs oxygen so you need lungs. You need some way of getting energy to these systems, so you need a digestive system, which starts at your lips and forms a frighteningly long tunnel that ends at your butt. Now you’re introducing weird shit to your blood beyond just oxygen so you need a few systems to keep the blood clean. Now you’ve got all kinds of different needs and so you have other orgasms to keep those organs alive and functioning. Oh and because your blood is also alive, it dies and you need a way to make more. Quite efficiently this is done in your bones. But for the sake of argument let’s say this is possible without the bones themselves.
I’d say the space suit starts at the immune system, and ends at the skin, which is really an extension of the immune system but there’s muscle in there. You could, theoretically, survive without any muscle or skin, or even an immune system in a clean environment, as long as you had a way to obtain calories and Oxygen independently. Though going to the bathroom would be hard.
You can’t really live without a space suit. That’s why you wear the space suit in the first place.
Maybe if we moved to an environment more suitable to our nervous system, we wouldn’t need our meat suit.
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You realize that this is a joke?
Seems we could provide all that artificially
Thanks!
both of you PLEASE put a CW warning on that
not everyone has huge screens so we tap it and then ::vomit::
CW morbid human nervous system anatomy, decoupled from rest of body
both of you PLEASE put a CW warning on that
not everyone has huge screens so we tap it and then ::vomit::
CW morbid human nervous system anatomy, decoupled from rest of body
What’s the line from Cruelty Squad? “I am a meat automaton animated by neurotransmitters?”
But where are you really? Behind your eyes? We become aware of sensations in the body but how can they be above or below us? The sensory data just is, there’s no place we receive it from, it just appears and then disappears. Any label we put on this is just a convenient conceptual overlay that attempts to make sense of it and give it meaning. There is no meaning, only emptiness.
I sense injuries. The data could be called pain.
Indeed. Sometimes we get injured and don’t notice it. Other times we feel pain and there is no injury. We’re attempting to make sense of experience by applying concepts to what we feel. It’s the reason why chronic pain management using drugs is unsustainable.
We are just quarks in a void doing whatever we want.
I mean. The motors are meat to. You would die without your skin but if you did not you could still move technically but the bones won’t do anything on their own.
