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  • cryptosporidium140@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlNot today, sorry.
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    1 year ago

    I could do that, or I could just keep hitting “No tip” when I know they literally did nothing but hand me the thing I ordered across a counter.

    For the sake of argument I could boldly reach across the counter, grab my order and walk out. Would that be cheating the clerk out of money? If that interaction is required and it costs money I’d be the one that felt cheated. That’s in the realm of Ticketmaster convenience fees












  • cryptosporidium140@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlLemmy users are like
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    1 year ago

    I think literally everything is technically up for debate. Your right to exist is an example of something that should easily win over 99% of those debates. 100% of them actually if you assume any human at all has a right to exist. Do you think a majority can’t possibly arrive at the conclusion that you deserve to exist?

    I’m not saying you can talk it out with everyone, but I would reserve tribalism for when all else fails because not everyone is intentionally cackling and twirling their mustache


  • Yeah like I said, thankless… I’m not sure how else you expect to achieve any progress with people. The type of silencing you suggest could just as easily be used against you too. “We’re right and they’re wrong, so why don’t we just take a shortcut and strongarm them?” Your counterparts on their side are saying the exact same thing so guess how that all ends





  • Clearly we have both frequently seen behavior the other hasn’t. I’m not sure how to reconcile that but I know I’m not just spewing right wing rubbish or strawmanning. I just think most of the real progress is made through conversation and not mashing the “You’re a terrible person” button. If everyone thought the same way we wouldn’t need to fight for progress, but that’s not reality and so we need to choose between conversations and tribalism. You’re free to choose tribalism more often if you prefer, it probably feels better to do that and maybe in your case you need to do that. It can’t be easy to talk to people who on the surface appear to disagree with your very existence. But the people actually talking it through are not the bad guys, they’re the ones getting shit done, changing minds instead of escalating and further entrenching people in their existing views.


  • I don’t think people really mean that when they say we should allow for other opinions. If the message is clearly coming from a mean spirited place you shouldn’t need to listen to that person. From what I’ve seen, bigotry often gets defined as literally any deviation from the exact list of opinions one must hold to be considered left wing. The people attacking “centrism” seem to think half the population is irredeemably evil and has nothing good to contribute to a conversation. “Centrists” to me are people from a wide range of views who decide not to be at each other’s throats and actually talk things out. To me the people who are willing to be civil (with those who are also civil and genuine about their views) are the ones making real progress instead of essentially hoping for civil wars to break out