• scbasteve7@lemm.ee
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    I dont think you could find someone who hates America more than an American. I can’t speak for other countries, but Americans who support change do so because they see how flawed the current system is. Why else would we want change?

    You keep saying westerners like we’re all one people. You’re talking about the right. I dont think any leftist who supports socialism, supports any of the talking points you brought up. And the westerners that support troksky is not every westerner. Not every westerner is the westerner you had experience with.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      I dont think you could find someone who hates America more than an American

      If your hypothetical American had a button that would sink the entire country to the bottom of the ocean, would they press it without a moment’s hesitation?

      If not, then they do not hate America more than me.

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      The people who hate America the most are probably Iraqis with dead children, or American indigenous people kept in poverty.

      I know there are westerners who have a better conception of socialism and are more amenable to international working class efforts. I know a lot of them. I’m from Texas lol. I don’t like it when westerners, like fellow Americans, look down their nose at other countries. Calling a nation fascist because it doesn’t meet your western ideas of what socialist utopia is supposed to be? It’s bizarre to me. It always seems racist.

      Westerners have a strong tendency towards national chauvinism and it’s rare to meet someone more internationally minded unless you go looking for them. You can probably agree with that.

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      That is a wild take. People have seen there kids burned to death in an American drone strike. Or had their family executed in front of them by special forces death squads.