• willeypete23@reddthat.com
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    2 years ago

    Dude why do people think communism means you can’t own anything. There’s a difference between private and personal properties. You can own a house, and a car, hell even a whole farm. What you cannot do is hold capital.

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      Because in practice the line between capital and personal property is very thin. Can a car or apartment not be used to generate income in a modern economy?

      When the soviets were in power they would force multiple families under one roof (kommunalka). Think 4-8 families sharing a kitchen and a bathroom. Each family was given just one room and all housing was considered communal housing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communal_apartment?wprov=sfti1

      After Stalin’s death families began receiving single family apartments due to massive housing reform by Kruschev, but were hastily built and called ‘khrushchyoba,’ a cross between Khrushchev’s name and the Russian term for slums. That by the way still leaves a multigenerational period from 1917-1954 where the kommunalka would have been the primary unit of housing.

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        You can generate money with a car or a farm. The whole problem with capitalism is getting money without working because you let people work with your stuff. So owning a car and use ist as a taxi is fine with communism. Having a taxi company is not. But you can form a taxi company with others. The difference is no one has financial power over others. No one just profits because he/she is the owner. There are people in charge but they are in charge because they have the knowledge and ability not just because they own everything and can do what they want.

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      So when does a farm go from personal to private property? Is it the moment you rent it or employ other people on it?

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        It’s an oversimplification, but… Sort of, yeah. Property you “own” to keep from others, and make money from owning it.

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        Rule of thumb and there are always exceptions, land that you live and work on is usually personal property, land that you own but someone else pays you for the privilege of living and working on is private property.

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        I think definition b on private covers what he was talking about

        Also merriam Webster is not the end all be all of how language is used

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          belonging to or concerning an individual person, company, or interest

          My car “belongs to […] an individual person”, doesn’t it?

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            A car can not only belong to one person, but it can be operated by one person.

            A key distinction I’ve heard is: whether a property has to be collectively operated or can it be individually operated?