Reminder that centralization is bad and anyone who thinks this arrangement where a big power player like this can control discourse and whether or not an instance basically dies likely has an affliction to where boots taste good.

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    I only found this after going down a rabbit hole of looking into one of their admins after seeing one of their admins unjustly label us as a “pedo instance.” I’m not going to append a screenshot of that because he talks shit about one of our users who go here in that same assburgers fueled diatribe.

    Call this drama seeking, but I honestly don’t care. The level of disrespect I’ve had leveled at me and our instance by the wider Lemmy community has my patience wearing thin.

    Lemmy was a fun experiment, but window lickers who have narcissistic complexities have got to ruin it, unfortunately. I really should’ve backed kbin since it seems like the wider fediverse (AKA the fun side) is more accessible compared to, “We’ve got to act like super serious corporations, but without any professionalism” Lemmyverse.

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      Most instances on Lemmy are much, much worse than Reddit. The few ones like this one that have some free speech going on just get blocked and ridiculed. At least from reddit I can understand from a business pov that they removed a lot of subreddits. For a lot of Lemmy instances money isnt even the driving factor but just closed minded individuals and censorship.

      It makes me sad since i loved to think that lemmy could be a smaller more compact community alternative to reddit but honestly its really not.

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        Lemmy.world gets a mind boggling amount of donations: https://opencollective.com/mastodonworld

        The admins should be above acting like snarky 12 year olds leveling serious insults at others which could risk landing someone in legal hot water/fuck over one’s reputation, as well as banning people for saying that their instance sucks, and is full of power tripping admins. I’d expect a little bit more professionalism from an instance that has a budget in the thousands. With their projected annual budget at an eye popping 5 figures range.

        If someone here said Burggit sucks I definitely wouldn’t ban them and would like to know why and if there’s any changes that can be made to make the site more appealing to them, assuming they aren’t a troll. If they are a troll, and not breaking any rules, I’ll just disengage and have a good laugh.

        Anytime I ban someone, providing they aren’t aiming to harm the site in any way, I always go for temp bans. I hate giving out permabans because I feel people should always have a second and third chance to correct their behavior.

        Later on, I’m going to trial run a kbin instance and run it as a sorta sister site to Burggit. Maybe the feed will be less dull then because the wider fediverse doesn’t really appear to have such a huge hypocritical stick up their collective asses compared to the Lemmyverse.

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          burggit is a fine instance, and you don’t really wanna talk to anyone who would defed with you anyways. don’t sweat it and let .world be a shithole in peace. their antics will catch up to them in the long term

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        It makes me sad since i loved to think that lemmy could be a smaller more compact community alternative to reddit but honestly its really not.

        functionally, it is. we’re having this convo across two different servers already. it’s just that the early adopters are kinda assholes to people like us. it appears that the fediverse will end up divided into groups along ideological battle lines, and that unless you’re a single user instance self-admin you’ll want 2 or 3 accounts to get the full picture. on the other hand, it means we have less immediate visibility to haters and presumptivly therefore less harassment than someplace like twitter, where people who hate each other share one big box (tell me again why we ever thought that was a good idea?)

        in other words, “fuck the haters I’ma go to an instance that respects me” is the correct response and we’ll continue on without their help

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    Scanning through the logs, in the fallout of this they also banned @InternetTubes@kbin.social for “ban evasion”, FinalBoy1975, HardlightCereal, as well as butts@ani.social(for commenting about this in an entirely different instance) and AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works(assumed to be an alt of an user who hasn’t posted on lemmy.world but also criticized it).

    Just wow.

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      From what I’ve read, they’ve also linked to CSAM and CP links on a completely different instance, and it has been left there, even if it’s just as “proof”. At this point, just the general lack of care about all of this is wow, and has made me reconsider just going back to reddit. As bad as it gets, this has its own bigger can of worms.

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    Yeah lemmy has… Issues. People are probably still trickling in, but if it’s to those instances it won’t really improve.

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      sturgen’s law applies to instances and instance admins. I suspect there will be growing pains as the initial group of servers are set up and we find out which have shit admins though experience

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    Yeah, .world is absolutely abysmal. I got one account banned for an evasion, and they basically just said I needed to prove I wasn’t ban evading, but refused to say who I was supposedly an alt for. Another account of mine got banned for nothing at all, they said to message the admins responsible, and over the span of a month, and over 50 messages, he refused to respond to any of them. Not to mention that they’re even more unhinged about politics than the reddit admins are.