• HadManySons@lemmy.bond
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    1 year ago

    Only if you don’t know what Cloudlfare does. It protects against all kinds of attacks.

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      1 year ago

      Yeah this post is nearly upsettingly ignorant.

      Cloudflare is just about the only big internet company out there objectively doing good things for the Internet.

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        1 year ago

        This seems like saying road construction makes driving objectively worse or security guards make a stadium venue objectively worse.

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          BACK IN MY DAY WE BROUGHT RIFLES TO GAME DAY TO TAUNT THE PLAYERS

      • spacesweedkid27 @lemmy.world
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        Maybe their point is just privatisation or something.

        For example a dns provider like cloudfare just could artificially make latency costs for servers that don’t agree with something cloudfare does bigger, which would result in them being less likely to be displayed in a search result because a search engine would have IP adresses faster from other servers. This obviously depends on if a search engine makes dns requests or just provides hostnames for the end user.

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        Right now.

        But everybody is also moving into their castle. Many for free.

        They are not allowed to let people do that unless they have an argument that, somehow, this makes money for the owners of Cloudflare. Maybe that’s in the form of good publicity. Maybe they’re hoping to set up some tollbooths at the castle gate, once enough people are inside and the other options have withered for lack of customers.

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          They also have payed plans. It’s actually nice of them to offer free plans for those in dire need. When your business critical site (eg. your small business shop) gets DDOSed and your hoster wants drastically more money for the traffic or will shut it down, both of which threatening your existance, cloudflare is a blessing.

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          They have existed for over a decade wtf are you on about. They’re publicly traded and doing very well.

          This is more nonsense in a thread full of nonsense.

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      I dont like monopolies, but a world without cloud flare would go down constantly just because a few script kiddies decided to ddos something

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      Also made my company I worked for saved ton of money, instead of using other usage-based CDN since we got some ddos for the past year.

      The CF Pages and their video encoding platform also ok and easy to use.

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      My negative experiences as an end user take priority over any positive experience told to me by a third party in a usage case that doesn’t apply to me.

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        Most of the time that a site is using Cloudflare you’ve likely not noticed and it has improved your experience.

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          Normal users only really notice if the site is actually being attacked and therefore has enabled some checks. You will then not be able to use wget or so, but it’s better than the site being down or unusably slow due to the attack.

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        Your experience as an end user is only available because cloudflare exists. That’s why your end user opinion doesn’t matter, because bad actors are constantly trying to ruin the internet and cloudflare is the gatekeeper. As a server owner I need security at the door to keep our illegal activity. Your opinion of “I don’t like security at the door” is dually noted and immediately thrown away.

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          “You only know about the bad thing because the bad thing exists” what a compelling argument. Did you know water makes things wet because it’s wet?

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        Yes, speed limits are dumb it affect me personally idc how it benefits the rest of us. Great philosophy.