• BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    I don’t even know what this means because it has no grounding in reality.

    They can’t negotiate peace because they are in a war? How is it possible to resolve this conflict in any realistic way if thats the criteria?

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        Your way of conceptializing this is so childlike as to be useless.

        I want the war in Ukraine to end. I want them to negotiate the best and most obvious solution to this conflict for the parties involved. I want the war to end because then people will not be getting killed.

        You want NATO to keep supporting Ukraine, to keep Ukraine away from negotiating. You want this, because… i don’t know why.

          • Egon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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            1 year ago

            If someone invades your house, you wouldn’t just given them a room and bath to have them clam down.

            I sure am glad that libs are aware that international relations are complex issues that cannot be boiled down to household analogies. It sure would be frustrating if they tried to make this into some simple black/white scenario with good guys and bad guys separated from material reality and historical context

              • DPRK_Chopra [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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                1 year ago

                A couple points:

                Ukraine is not doing well even with the combined weight of NATO behind them, despite what cope you might have read on reddit-logo

                Even if Russia did suddenly pack it up and leave, there would be an immediate attempted cleansing of ethnic Russians or presumed Russian “collaborators” (anyone they don’t like).